Suncor Energy (SU) Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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DATE

Wed, Nov. 4, 2026

CALL PARTICIPANTS

  • Director of Investor Relations - David L. Johnson
  • Chief Executive Officer - Richard Kruger
  • President and Chief Financial Officer - Peter Zebedee
  • Executive Vice President, Upstream - Adam Albeldawi
  • Executive Vice President, Downstream - David Oldreive
  • Executive Vice President, Development and Projects - Shelley Powell

TAKEAWAYS

  • Adjusted Funds from Operations (AFFO) -- $6.7 billion, representing a record quarterly result driven by higher upstream price realizations and increased downstream margins.
  • Free Funds Flow -- $5.2 billion, a record figure reflecting the strength of the company's integrated operations and higher cracking margins.
  • Total Upstream Production -- 852,500 barrels a day, a rebound of 92,000 barrels a day from the second quarter and the second highest third quarter production in company history.
  • Refined Product Sales -- 676,900 barrels a day, a record performance aided by prior debottlenecking efforts and increased high-value export capacity.
  • Refinery Crude Oil Throughput -- 487,700 barrels a day, with 95% utilization across the refining network despite maintenance at the Montreal and Edmonton refineries.
  • Adjusted Operating Earnings -- $4.631 billion, or $3.97 per common share, compared to $1.794 billion in the prior year quarter.
  • Net Earnings -- $3.814 billion, or $3.27 per common share, including a $1.08 billion non-cash asset impairment related to offshore asset divestitures.
  • Net Debt -- $1.8 billion at quarter-end, an exceptionally strong balance sheet position as described by CFO Peter Zebedee.
  • Shareholder Returns -- $2 billion in total for the third quarter, including $1.4 billion in share repurchases and $700 million in dividends.
  • Monthly Share Repurchases -- $750 million starting in October, representing a 50% increase from the previous $500 million monthly rate.
  • Quarterly Dividend -- $0.66 per share, a 10% increase over the prior quarter dividend.
  • Upgrader Utilization -- 98% overall for the quarter, including record third quarter utilization at Oil Sands Base.
  • Base Plant Performance -- 107% of nameplate capacity, achieving exceptional throughput during the period.
  • Syncrude Utilization -- 88%, reflecting the impact of a 47-day coker turnaround successfully completed in the first half of October.
  • Jet Fuel Sales -- 38,000 barrels a day, representing a 65% increase year over year.
  • Export Product Volumes -- 75,000 barrels a day, an 80% increase year over year driven by "thirsty global markets."
  • Asset Divestiture -- $1.2 billion in upfront cash for the sale of interests in Terra Nova, White Rose, and West White Rose to Ithaca Energy plc.
  • Turnaround Cost Reductions -- $350 million a year, achieving the company's increased ambition of reducing annual turnaround spending below $1 billion for three consecutive years.
  • Taxes and Royalties -- $8 billion year to date paid to Canadian governments, equivalent to approximately 40% of free funds flow.
  • Edmonton Refinery Optimization -- $50 million in incremental free funds, generated through a new strategy to store and blend gas oil during turnarounds.
  • Commerce City Capacity -- 43,000 barrels a day at Plant 3, a 5,000-barrel-per-day increase following the removal of furnace constraints.
  • Autonomous Haulage System (AHS) -- 140 trucks at the Base plant and nearly 30 trucks at Syncrude, aimed at reducing operating costs and increasing productivity in mining.
  • Burrard Terminal Capacity -- More than doubled export capacity, facilitating 92 cargoes year to date across the Burrard and Montreal terminals.

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RISKS

  • Kruger stated, "We generally can't control the prices of our products. So we have to just have an endless, ruthless, unwavering commitment to cost management," noting the risk posed by cyclical commodity price volatility.
  • Kruger noted that "mining has a higher ongoing operating cost structure" compared to the company's in situ assets, identifying the need for improved productivity to maintain capital competitiveness.

SUMMARY

Suncor Energy Inc. (NYSE:SU) reported record financial performance for the third quarter, driven by physical integration between its upstream production and downstream refining assets. Management executed on strategic portfolio pruning by announcing the divestiture of non-core offshore East Coast assets for $1.2 billion while maintaining its long-term free funds flow growth targets through 2028. The company utilized record upgrader utilization and optimized refining throughput to capture synthetic crude oil price premiums and expand global export volumes. CFO Peter Zebedee indicated that the company's strengthened balance sheet, with net debt reduced to $1.8 billion, supports a significant increase in capital returns through a 10% dividend hike and expanded monthly share repurchases.

  • CEO Richard Kruger stated that "Suncor's fundamental competitive advantage" is its physical integration, which allows the company to optimize feedstock and product streams across its operations.
  • President and Chief Financial Officer Peter Zebedee stated, "Every member of our Board and our executive team treats our dividend as an unbreakable promise to our shareholders."
  • The company has increased its refined product export footprint to 45 countries, up from 21 countries cited during its 2024 Investor Day.
  • Management reported that the Edmonton refinery is likely the only facility in North America running entirely on feedstock supplied from the refinery owner's upstream operations.
  • Suncor is evaluating a "what-if" scenario for its in situ growth plan to determine if the company should accelerate its current decade-long, six-phase expansion strategy.
  • The company has transitioned its turnaround performance from the third and fourth quartiles in North America to the first and second quartiles in terms of schedule and cost.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

  • AFFO: Adjusted Funds From Operations, a non-GAAP measure adjusting cash flow from operations for changes in non-cash working capital.
  • AHS: Autonomous Haulage System, a technology using self-driving trucks to improve safety and productivity in mining operations.
  • Crack Spread: The price difference between a barrel of crude oil and the petroleum products refined from it, representing a primary refining margin indicator.
  • FPSO: Floating Production Storage and Offloading, a vessel used by the offshore oil and gas industry for the processing and storage of hydrocarbons.
  • Nameplate Capacity: The intended full-load sustained output of a facility based on its design.
  • SCO: Synthetic Crude Oil, the product derived from upgrading bitumen from oil sands.
  • TMX: Trans Mountain Expansion, a pipeline system used to transport crude oil and refined products from Alberta to the West Coast for export.
  • WCS: Western Canadian Select, a heavy crude oil benchmark.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Suncor Energy Third Quarter 2026 Financial Results Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker, Suncor Energy's Director of Investor Relations, Mr. David Johnson.

David L. Johnson: Thank you, operator, and good morning. Welcome to Suncor Energy's Third Quarter Earnings Call. Please note that today's comments contain forward-looking information. Actual results may differ materially from expected results because of various risk factors and assumptions that are described in our third quarter earnings release as well as our current annual information form, both of which are available on SEDAR+, EDGAR and our website, suncor.com. Certain financial measures referred to in these comments are not prescribed by Canadian generally accepted accounting principles. For a description of these financial measures, please see our third quarter earnings release. We'll start with comments from Rich Kruger, Chief Executive Officer; followed by Peter Zebedee, President and Chief Financial Officer.

Also on the call are Adam Albeldawi, Executive Vice President, Upstream; David Oldreive, Executive Vice President, Downstream; and Shelley Powell, Executive Vice President, Development and Projects. Following the formal remarks, we'll open the call up to questions. Now I'll hand it over to Rich to share his comments.

Richard Kruger: Thanks, David. Our third quarter involved completing major maintenance for the year, positioning for a strong finish, and maximizing value in today's business environment. We accomplished all 3. We also announced the sale of non-core offshore East Coast assets and a series of senior leadership transitions, actions that will position us well for the future. I'll discuss operational highlights, and Peter will follow with financial. Starting with safety. The third quarter was our safest quarter of the year for both personnel and process safety. But rather than recite data, I want to recognize an employee, Emma Todd, Projects Manager and EHS Leader.

Emma was recently awarded the Alberta Mine Safety Association's 2026 Trailblazer Safety Leader award, recognizing her passion and commitment in leading people to work safely. Emma first came to my attention a few years ago on a project that was struggling. She rolled up her sleeves, put her boots on the ground and got things back on track, but most impressive was that Emma knew by name every contractor on site. She epitomizes safety leadership at today's Suncor, and we are extremely proud of her.

Upstream production, 853,000 barrels a day in the quarter, a rebound of 92,000 barrels a day from a very wet second quarter and our second highest third quarter ever, only behind last year's record, achieved despite Syncrude's 47-day coker turnaround, which was successfully completed in the first half of October. Upgrader utilization, a very strong 98% in the quarter and 96% year-to-date. Base plant in Q3 achieved an exceptional 107% of nameplate capacity. Syncrude was 88% given the coker turnaround performance, which is extremely valuable, given today's synthetic price premiums. Refining throughput 488,000 barrels a day in the quarter, on par with last year's best ever. Here again, performance delivering tremendous value in today's business environment.

95% utilization in 3Q, throughput 28,000 barrels a day higher than our internal business plan and consensus, achieved despite a 37-day turnaround at Edmonton and a 31-day event at Montreal and despite temporary curtailment at Sarnia due to Line 5's unplanned outage. With all this activity, how did we achieve this exceptionally high throughput? Story time. Historically, a turnaround of the Edmonton refinery's fluid cat cracking unit would require reduced crude throughput and equal to about 30% of the refinery's capacity or 45,000 to 50,000 barrels a day. Because when this unit is offline, there's no ability to process the heavier gas oil stream coming off the larger crude distillation unit. This is where the story gets interesting.

[Jewel Amond] downstream production coordinator, came up with the idea to temporarily store gas oil and to blend it with production streams from our oil sand upgraders, 400 kilometers away in Fort Mac, creating a new marketable sweet synthetic crude. This innovative idea enabled full crude throughput during the entire turnaround, preserving 46,000 barrels a day of throughput that historically would have been curtailed. Adding 3% to Edmonton's annual average utilization rate and 1% to Suncor's overall utilization rate. The best part, it generated in excess of $50 million in incremental free funds, $50 million, one idea by one person, [Jewel], embraced and implemented by our team, leveraging Suncor's fundamental competitive advantage, our unparalleled physical integration.

This idea wasn't in our annual business plan, and it wasn't in our March investor deck. It illustrates our culture to continually add value and compete. My thanks to [Jewel] and his upstream and downstream colleagues. You guys rocked it. Product sales, 677,000 barrels a day in the quarter, a record by a whopping 30,000 barrels a day and nearly tied with our highest quarter ever, continuing a string that every month in 2026 has achieved a new sales record. Now the ninth quarter in a row above 600,000 barrels a day after never reaching 600,000 barrels a day in any previous quarter. Retail, our highest value channel with #1 market share. Year-to-date, volumes are up 4.3% year-on-year.

Jet sales at 38,000 barrels a day are up 65% year-on-year and exports at 75,000 barrels a day are up 80% year-on-year. We continue to operate at industry-leading refining utilization to meet our customers' needs, achieving both value and record sales in Canada as well as in thirsty global markets. The third quarter was a big turnaround quarter for us. You'll recall, historically, we spent $1.25 billion per year on turnarounds. In 2024 on our I-Day, we committed to reduce turnaround cost by $250 million a year over 3 years. We achieved that commitment in 2 years. In mid-'25, we increased our ambition by another $100 million to $350 million a year in reductions. We achieved that this year.

2026 being a big year with the third quarter being a big turnaround quarter, Edmonton and Montreal, the largest events in the downstream and Syncrude in the upstream. Results, Montreal, best ever cost and duration, Edmonton, best ever cost and duration. Syncrude best ever cost and duration. Three for 3 is Suncor hat trick. 2026 is now the third consecutive year with turnaround cost below $1 billion. Our schedule performance has improved from third and fourth quartile to first and second quartile in North America. Cost has similarly improved with further improvement planned. Specifically, we have an additional $150 million reduction included in our 2028 targets.

On October 4, we announced an agreement to sell our interest in Terra Nova, White Rose and West White Rose to Ithaca Energy plc for $1.2 billion in upfront cash and potential additional payments of up to $350 million based on future oil prices over a 27-month period. With the transaction, Ithaca assumes all future obligations associated with the assets, including a $500 million regulatory well compliance program starting in 2027 at Terra Nova and estimated abandonment liabilities, which total $1.4 billion. Through the first half of 2026, these assets contributed about 18,000 barrels a day or 2% of our upstream production. But most importantly, this transaction is consistent with our strategy and our value proposition.

We create value through our unparalleled physically integrated upstream and downstream asset base underpinned by large long-life Oil Sands resources. These assets certainly of value, frankly, were not in that family photo. In Ithaca, we found a buyer whose strategy and core competency is aligned with these assets and consequently was willing to pay us accordingly, win-win for both parties. As stated in our press release, our 2026 I-Day commitments to grow free funds flow by an additional $2 billion a year and reduce our WTI breakeven by a further $5 per barrel through 2028 remain unchanged, reflecting our confidence in continuing to deliver exceptional shareholder value.

A quick wrap up, Suncor remains focused to excel, to compete, to win with best-in-class operating performance ambitions, definitive value-based priorities and plans, organizational alignment top to bottom, and a team-based results-oriented culture, delivering reliable and ratable high-performance literally built to win in any and all business environments. With that, I'll turn it to Peter.

Peter Zebedee: Well, thanks a lot, Rich. And wow, what a quarter for me to begin my role as CFO. As I reflect on the quarter, I'm incredibly proud of the progress we've made over the past 4 years. That hard work has fundamentally strengthened the business and positioned us to maximize value in today's commodity environment. Not only have we improved our resilience in lower priced environments by reducing our WTI corporate breakeven by more than $10 a barrel, we've expanded our earnings power at higher prices even more significantly. The third quarter of 2026 was proof of that. We delivered a record $6.7 billion in adjusted funds from operations and a record $5.2 billion in free funds flow.

Those exceptional results, however, only tell part of the story. To fully appreciate how much this business has changed, let's compare where we are today versus 2022 when we also had record high AFFO and free funds flow. Let's start with Oil Sands. Through the first 9 months of 2026, the benchmark crude prices for WTI, SYN and WTS averaged roughly 15% below 2022 levels. On price alone, that would have reduced Oil Sands AFFO by $1.5 billion. And yet today, our Oil Sands AFFO increased by $160 million to $11.1 billion. How do we do this? Higher production, higher margin, pure performance. The improvement in the downstream was even more remarkable.

Through the first 9 months of 2026, New York Harbor 2-1-1 crack spread, net of RVO, averaged 16% higher than in 2022. Yet downstream AFFO grew by over 60% to an astounding $7.9 billion. How do we do this? Record throughput and a much stronger margin capture in a business that many had thought was already at the top of its game. The value we've created is clear. Q3 year-to-date AFFO, 15% higher than 2022, free funds flow 18% higher. On a per share basis, both were roughly 40% higher. We are generating more cash flow and significantly more value per share, and it's not simply the result of commodity prices. This is the result of a fundamentally stronger business.

The value we create extends well beyond our shareholders. When Suncor succeeds, Canadian government share in that success. Q3 year-to-date, our operations have paid nearly $8 billion in income taxes and royalties to Canadian governments, reaching record high levels. This equates to about 40% of our free funds flow, pre-royalty and pretax. This performance reflects years of improving reliability, strengthening integration across the value chain and capturing higher margins from every barrel we produce and refine, and we're not done yet. There is no finish line when it comes to improving this business. Every improvement creates the opportunity for the next one.

And this is precisely why we did not change our normalized free funds flow growth or WTI breakeven reduction targets even with the sale of Terra Nova, White Rose and West White Rose. We have a clear line of sight to delivering those targets. So let me highlight a couple of examples on how the team keeps finding new ways to raise the bar. At our Canadian West Coast Burrard Terminal, we have more than doubled our export capacity, helping Canada supply much needed energy to global trading partners and giving our teams greater flexibility to capture value. Between Burrard and Montreal, we exported 92 cargoes over 9 months.

That's nearly 60% higher than in all of 2025 and at much lower contracted costs than the freight rates we saw in the market. At our refineries, we continue to find and capture improvements across the business. In July, the Commerce City team identified and addressed the constraint of the Plant 3 furnaces after never having run above 38,000 barrels a day. The unit is now operating at 43,000 barrels a day, a full 5,000 barrels a day increase to throughput. That improvement alone is expected to generate roughly $50 million of value in the second half of this year.

We have built a business that is consistently finding and capturing opportunities beyond what was visible only a few short years ago. And that same discipline extends to how we manage the balance sheet and allocate capital. We ended the quarter with $1.8 billion in net debt, and I know many on the call today are forecasting a net cash position by the end of the year. This is an exceptionally strong balance sheet. During the quarter, we returned over $2 billion to shareholders, including $1.4 billion of share buybacks and $700 million in dividends.

Beginning in October, we increased our monthly buybacks from $500 million a month to $750 million a month, reflecting our ability to sustain that level for an extended period of time. On the dividend, our philosophy remains unchanged. That is to sustain our integrated asset base, deliver a reliable and growing base dividend, return capital through consistent and ratable buybacks and invest in high-growth opportunities. We look to give long-term investors a predictable framework that they can count on through the cycle. To be very clear, every member of our Board and our executive team treats our dividend as an unbreakable promise to our shareholders.

The only way to grow it is by building a stronger and more resilient business, and that's exactly what we've been doing. The 10% dividend increase we announced is underpinned by structurally higher earnings power, a materially lower share count and confidence in our Investor Day plan. The absolute dividend level will remain fully sustainable through the cycle. With sizable increases in both dividends and share buybacks, we are on track to deliver record annual shareholder returns in 2026. Today, Suncor is generating more cash, maintaining a stronger balance sheet and returning more value to shareholders. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to David, and we can take some questions.

David L. Johnson: Thanks, Peter. I'll turn the call back to the operator, and we can go to the questions.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from the line of Greg Pardy with RBC Capital Markets.

Greg Pardy: All right. So this has not been the first quarter where you have just talked about how much the downstream business is delivering and so forth. I mean it's such a bigger business than it was 5 years ago. Just curious in terms of thinking around projects -- growth projects aimed at either margin improvement or growth in the downstream.

Richard Kruger: Greg, I'll take a shot at it, and then I'll ask Dave to comment further. What -- again, what makes us different is this uniquely physically integrated upstream and downstream. Our downstream is historically, Peter alluded to it, thought to be among the best parts of our business. And what we found is you can take something that's already good and make it better and better. With the re-rate in capacity last year, that was a big part of it. The further supporting of the growing refined product sales is another part of it. And we've said over and over, we're not done yet. We don't see it necessarily as building a new refinery, anything like that.

Generally, refineries are closer to the markets. But the idea of continuing to incrementally expand capacity, continuing to create value not only in that headline throughput number, but in the secondary units that all make custom products to fit for the market. Our -- part of our story this year has been our ability to dial up, dial down to meet market needs at home and abroad. We don't see any of that changing. Dave, I don't know if I left anything left for you, but if I did man...

Dave Oldreive: I think you covered it well, Rich. Maybe I'll share a couple of examples of some of the things that we're doing to give some color to where we're finding value. Rich, you mentioned in your remarks the $50 million benefit that [Jewel] found on optimizing during the Edmonton refinery turnaround. But in Edmonton refinery, we're really focused on filling out our intermediate units, our conversion units with custom blends from our Oil Sands operations. We've done that over -- we increased that by 8,000 barrels a day so far year-to-date, generating $75 million of value.

And in addition to that, we're getting more diesel yields out of these units for a total of $140 million of value at Edmonton so far year-to-date. And I would say that's not done yet. We continue to -- as Peter mentioned, we've hit a constraint, we bust through the constraint. We hit the next constraint. We keep working on those opportunities. We haven't seen the end of that yet. And that's all in addition to what Rich mentioned on the turnaround. So [Nick Romondo] and his team are doing an awesome job there at Edmonton. I'll give you an example in Sarnia. It's a small volume, but it pays off really well. This is a value opportunity in Sarnia.

[Kyle Hills] and [Arsalan Chahar] in Sarnia found that we had this 800-barrel-a-day specialty stream, a solvent stream that we made off of our reformers in Sarnia that was causing us to have to run the reformers at higher severity. They worked with our integrated team, found a different product that we could make that could allow our reformers to run at lower severity. And that reduces our downtime due to catalyst changeouts and increases the yield on our reformers, which ultimately produces more high octane gasoline and provides a total benefit of $40 million a year. Peter mentioned Commerce City, lots of great work going on there. He mentioned Plant 3.

We're doing similar things in Plant 2 with some new crudes that help fill out the bottom of our crude pipe stills. And we've got some things going on in Montreal, which I'll plan to share on the next quarter, but we're not done yet.

Richard Kruger: I think, Greg, cutting through that is, when you have technical and operational teams that have provided the right focus and leadership, they continue to find opportunities, and we're beyond scratching the surface, but we're far from done. And so I think you can continue to have very -- expect very strong results upstream, downstream as we go forward because of the culture that we continue to create here.

Greg Pardy: Yes, the downstream is super impressive. The overall business is super impressive. So I want to maybe just shift gears on to the -- just anything you want to say maybe about progress on the MOU. I know the negotiations are still pretty heavy duty there. But also related to that, back at your Investor Day, you framed a very, very large resource base as well as upstream growth optionality. I'm just wondering -- pretty open-ended question, but just wondering how those pieces fit together?

Richard Kruger: Sure. We do have a huge high-quality resource base. And in many instances, it has advantages, synergies because of our existing footprint, whether that's Lewis, expansions at Firebag, et cetera. The -- if you talk about growth in general, we're less concerned about what today's oil price is and more concerned about what will the oil price be 5 years, 10 years, 15 years from now. So in high prices, inevitably, questions come up about growth and are you changing it? The question we ask ourselves is, has the world fundamentally changed? And we don't know if it has yet. There's a lot of theorists and so-called experts.

I haven't met anyone in my career, Greg, who can accurately predict long-term oil prices. So we look at generating attractive returns through mid-cycle prices when we can enjoy good business environments and we can withstand weakness. Now as it relates to the MOU and the interactions between the industry and the government, I think it's important to step back. What's the goal? The goal is that Canada is globally competitive on a fiscal and regulatory risk framework so that we can attract and incent capital. That's the goal. So the MOU has many components to it, the so-called 3Ps, pipeline, production, pathways. We've seen some things occur, the new Mega Deduction.

There seems to be some momentum on the West Coast pipeline. There's -- we're all anxiously waiting to hear more from the province on royalties and incentives there. The parties are all sleeves rolled up, meeting endlessly, working hard together, but that goal is the global competitiveness of the industry. And from a Suncor standpoint, we would far rather have a good deal when we're ready or versus a bad or an incomplete deal at an artificial date or deadline. So we're working hard. And the days on the calendar are just other days to me, November 15 is coming up.

Whether we have something on November 15 or not, I don't know, but I know we're all working hard, and I believe we're sharing, federal, provincial, and industry, the same objective of a globally competitive Canada.

Operator: One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Dennis Fong with CIBC.

Dennis Fong: And congratulations on a solid quarter. My first question here follows along the lines of, I guess, Greg's first question but kind of expands on some of the prepared remarks there. And so when we think about, we call it the interconnection between Syncrude, base plant, Firebag and Fort Hills, this was, frankly, critical in terms of maintaining upgrader utilization and throughput through the year and obviously through very challenging conditions. And further, I think in Q3, you were able to showcase how that interconnection was helpful with respect to obviously, your refining turnarounds and so forth.

My question here is, what are you looking to do to bolster that physical interconnectivity beyond what has already been outlined like ore sharing at Fort Hills or interconnect pipeline and/or obviously, the physical connection between your Fort McMurray Oil Sands and Edmonton and your Eastern refineries?

Richard Kruger: Adam, you want to -- you just -- at the end, you linked into the refining, but Adam, why don't you start out in terms of kind of the vision and our priorities in the upstream overall.

Adam Albeldawi: Yes, happy to do that. Dennis, you actually captured one of the main things that makes us quite unique in the upstream. And that is the ability to have physical integration across all of our assets in the upstream. So whether that is Firebag bitumen going to the base plant upgrader, whether that's Firebag bitumen going to Syncrude, whether it's Fort Hills bitumen going to the base plant upgrader or [sours] in between Syncrude and base plant. So when you take a step back and take a look at what makes us unique, that is one of the main things that makes us incredibly unique in the upstream business. So how do we leverage that?

There's a couple of ways we leverage that. The first way is when you look at the performance in our upgraders over the last several years, one of the main focus areas for us has been increasing the utilization. And as we increase the utilization, clearly, that increases the bitumen feed that we need from our mines and from our in situ assets. So the physical integration that we have across the assets enable us to actually continue to increase upgrading rates. And that's where you see some of the higher price realizations that you saw in Q3. The second main way we take advantage of this is during maintenance events.

So when there's maintenance events at our mine production assets, we now have the ability to move bitumen from different in situ assets to the upgraders to keep the upgraders full, again, ensuring we maximize value from those big, big money makers. So there's a couple of examples of how we leverage the integration that we have. As we look forward, we are always looking to see how we can maximize that even further.

So for example, the record transfers that you're seeing from Fort Hills to the base plant upgrader is a result of the continued debottlenecking activities our team has done to maximize PFT bitumen to the base plant, and we are continuing to find opportunities to do that even further.

Richard Kruger: I think a key part of all this is as we have improved underlying asset performance, now we can continue to optimize and create incremental value. But when you have assets where you have too much variability in their performance, you can't optimize. And I'll take just the tail end of your question and extend that to the downstream. I would bet a week's pay, I think the Edmonton refinery is the only refinery in North America that runs 100% on feedstock from the refinery's owner. I would guess, if not it, there's -- it's probably a -- Dave will kick in part of that week's pay.

But -- so what we were able to do is Edmonton with its pots and pans, primary units, secondary units, we can literally moderate what Edmonton can maximize value on from our upstream operations. Sarnia, far further away, runs with well over half of its feedstock with Suncor crudes. As you get further away to Montreal, the percentage goes down, but that interconnectedness is still a key differentiator with us, and that allows our upstream and downstream teams to work hand-in-hand, maximizing every dollar and every barrel. That is at the core, that is what makes us different and unique relative to a broader peer set.

Dennis Fong: Great. My second question. And, if we go back in time, Rich, you've made past comments on Suncor's ability to provide "crafted cocktails" to refineries, whether it be your own or third-party with what they need for, frankly, feedstocks to optimize, frankly, your own upstream and downstream realizations.

Can you talk towards maybe from taking a step back and thinking about this strategically, how kind of a combination of logistics, global marketing, obviously, the tanker capacity that you have time contracted as well as your ability to expand kind of your network to market globally, how that's really improved, we'll call it, market intelligence, your ability to act more opportunistically, especially given the volatility of the market and what that maybe means for kind of value generation for both upstream and downstream?

Richard Kruger: This has been a really fun area. And of course, it gets back to that, again, the predictability and stability of the underlying assets. And sometimes, Dennis, we'd rather be lucky than good. And in this case, we -- a few years ago, we started to look at the opportunities beyond our core domestic markets. You've heard the story about how Dave came in and we philosophically changed our strategy on sales and said, run our facilities full out, we will find profitable homes for that. That extended beyond Canada, whereas in the '24 I-Day, we said we could market in 21 countries. This year, we said 45 countries. Did we have a vision that we would necessarily do that?

No, not necessarily. But with events in the world, started by Russia, Ukraine, now in the Middle East, as we've had those opportunities and as we've locked in logistical capabilities, not only pipeline access to the coast, but you mentioned time charters. We've got what now 9 time charters that can be in crude or product service off of the coast. I mentioned how export volumes are up 80% year-on-year. These have -- where typically an export market is a market of last resort. You kind of get your barrel there because you don't have a better home for it. Those markets now have been particularly valuable because of acute shortages.

So that this full holistic integrated model extends well beyond upstream and downstream. It is logistics. It is markets, it's customers abroad, and that is an area we have changed materially. But here again, our rallying cry is we're not done yet. We keep seeing opportunities. Our traders, both particularly in Calgary and Houston, we've got some folks in London as well. They're extremely sophisticated on the markets we compete in. We're not trying to be a global trader, but the markets we compete in, they're extremely knowledgeable, seeing opportunities. And it's one of the reasons you see if you start doing realizations per barrel, this and that because those profits we put back into the business that generated them.

You have seen and you will continue to see premium prices for Suncor production and products because of that level of sophistication. It is -- we have a lot of fun with it, candidly. And we have -- we believe we'll continue to create more value that our peers are unable to replicate.

Operator: Next question, and that will come from the line of Arun Jayaram with JPMorgan.

Arun Jayaram: Rich and Peter. I was wondering if you could give us an update on your in situ growth plan and the 400 kbd opportunity. I know that you guys are focused on selecting an EPC under the design one, build many concept. And I want to just maybe provide a little bit of update on that as you look to scale Lewis and Firebag over the next decade.

Richard Kruger: Sure. One of our announcements here recently was the shift in Shelley Powell to her broader portfolio to the EVP of the -- in particular, the in situ growth plan to create that level of senior executive focus and time on that. So Shelley, why don't you tell Arun what the heck you've been working on?

Shelley Powell: Great opportunity. So all of the projects that we talked about in our Investor Day plan are actually progressing quite well. They are exactly where we would expect them to be. I was actually in the field last week and toured quite a few of them. All of them are fully staffed. We've got materials on the ground. So things are progressing in a way that we would absolutely expect the shorter-term wins. I think to your broader question on engineering and the larger projects, you are right, we are right in the middle of evaluating who do we want to partner with long term, not only on the engineering side but also on the field construction side.

We are setting ourselves up to enter longer-term type relationships with these organizations, really thinking about what we've been talking about as a portfolio rather than individual suites of projects. We think that gives us the opportunity really to utilize the economies of scale to look at optimization, to ensure we have construction workforce security over the longer term, and we think we have a really attractive portfolio that we can deliver over the long term. So really excited about where we're at and things are off to a very strong start.

Richard Kruger: And in anticipation of a question, I'll answer it ahead of time. We're also looking at right now relative to that March I-Day plan, doing the what-if. What if we wanted further growth? What if we wanted to go a bit faster, what would be the incremental investments we would make, where's the timing? So that's one thing. And the second part of it is also looking at the progress we've made over the last few years on debottlenecking our facilities and giving the incremental 5,000 to 10,000 barrels a day. What further opportunities remain on that? So we have a plan we laid out. It's in situ growth. It's fundamentally 6 phases of in situ projects over a decade.

That's the base case. But we're asking ourselves and doing some preliminary work saying, well, what if we wanted to do more, what if we wanted to go faster? We haven't landed on that yet, but that is -- it ties with this conversation about the fiscal and regulatory environment in Canada, the MOU, if all that turns out to create that globally competitive business environment. That may be something we do. And we're able to look at all these because we're underpinned by a tremendously large, long-life high-quality resource base. Without that, these would be academic exercises. For us, they're not academic exercises. They're real-life opportunities.

Arun Jayaram: Great. And my follow-up is you made the decision, obviously, to monetize some of your non-core offshore assets in Eastern Canada, yet you are maintaining your 2028 Investor Day objectives, the $2 billion of free funds flow growth at $65. Can you just talk about what's outperforming in the portfolio for you to maintain those targets? And is the 100 kbd growth target still intact?

Richard Kruger: Yes. I'll take it in reverse, Arun. The 100 kbd doesn't -- we don't add up to that right now. We -- if you take 2028, the assets that we are looking to sell will be about 40,000 barrels a day of our -- of the grand total. And then so the 100 becomes 60. But at the end of the day, production throughput, those are drivers, but our fundamental objectives are free funds flow per share. That's the growth we're after. And our confidence in either the breakeven or the free funds growth remained because on May -- March 31, folks saw a snapshot in time, but this organization continues to work and make things better.

And I think that little example I shared with Edmonton, $50 million during the turnaround, Peter shared an example or 2. These are -- these illustrate that we keep coming up with new ideas to add value. And when the executive team sat back, looked at that, we did the adjustments for the asset sale, which would have said, well, production is going to be lower, the free funds flow would have been lower. The breakeven wouldn't have been as high.

And we sat there and looked at each other, all held hands and said, no, we're still going to deliver on these commitments that we made because we have confidence in this organization, the people and the ideas with the momentum we've established, and we said we're still going to achieve those, if not exceed those. And so it's not really any 1 or 2 things or 3 or 4. It's just the cross-organization alignment and commitment and momentum we have that gives us confidence we will achieve those.

Operator: And that will come from the line of Doug Leggate with Wolfe Research.

Douglas George Blyth Leggate: I wonder, Rich, we've heard a lot about incredible reliability, utilization rates and so on. And I wonder in the context of your dividend breakeven trajectory, are we seeing a reset in the underlying production capacity? I don't want to say you're understating what you've achieved because it looks like is it utilization that's getting better? Or is it the debottlenecking and the capacity that's actually increased in which case, what does that imply for your dividend breakeven trajectory? That's 2 questions, I guess.

Richard Kruger: Thanks, Doug. Every time I go out there and make a commitment, these son of the guns that I'm sitting around the table with prove me wrong because they do better. We rerated our downstream flow 466,000 barrels a day to 511,000, the full capacity. And this guy sitting next to me to the left, he's been telling me that lately we've had days north of 520,000. And it was like I thought capacity was 511. So things keep getting better. But you're exactly right. As that continues, that breakeven, which for us, of course, includes our full dividend, we continue to drive it down. The downstream kind of subsidizes or enhances that breakeven.

So as we said the new year -- new plan this year was going to be going from around 43 to 38 this year, in part because of some special circumstances, we're going to achieve more than we thought we would have achieved this year. We're not necessarily sure if those will -- that will endure over time. But these fundamental improvements, whether it's debottlenecking, those incremental barrels, they greatly add to our ability to drive down that breakeven. And I think the 10% dividend increase is illustrative of the confidence that we have going forward. We've been kind of 5% year after year, roughly equal to the fraction of shares we've been buying back.

So Peter ramped up the buybacks to $750 million here. The dividend is going up by 10%. The 10% probably is a pretty good indication that with the amount of shares we think we'll be buying back and our confidence in the underlying business, the -- you can continue to expect further shareholder returns, whether it be a dividend and/or buybacks.

Douglas George Blyth Leggate: I guess we'll wait for the update. But Rich, my follow-up, I'll try and ask this as succinctly as I can. But years ago, we all used to think about pre-royalty and post-royalty payouts and how they were ring-fenced and so on. And with the tax change in September, clearly, you're getting accelerated -- I don't want to call it tax shield, but depreciation that maybe makes the previous discussion somewhat less relevant. And I guess what I'm going with this is when you laid out your strategy through 2028, you didn't have that tax treatment in your capital plan.

So I'm wondering in the context of what you just answered before about maybe you want to look at growth options, has the tax treatment changed your thoughts on how you -- whether you decide to go after more growth?

Richard Kruger: What the tax treatment fundamentally does, we're -- under current rules or we're able to ultimately depreciate our investments. It's just the time at which we can depreciate them. So if you do that over a 10-year period or a 3 -- I'm making this up or a 2- or 3-year period, it enhances the calculation of a rate of return, and it can accelerate a payout of an investment. So fundamentally, these accelerated depreciation rules help derisk long-term capital-intensive investments. Are they game changers in terms of do you do something or not do something? Maybe, but I don't think it fundamentally changes the long-term investment profile, say, wow, we will now do a whole bunch more.

But if you couple accelerated depreciation with an incentivized royalty system that starts to do some of the same things, if you clear up some of the regulatory complexities that would extend approval time frames upfront, you start coupling several of these things together, which are all part of the component parts of the MOU. Now you're changing the fundamental underlying fiscal and regulatory regime. And yes, that, in aggregate, can lead us to be more ambitious, more aggressive on long-term capital investments. Any one item is nice but probably on its own, not sufficient to materially alter the capital allocation framework.

Operator: One moment for our next question, and that will come from the line of Menno Hulshof with TD Securities.

Menno Hulshof: I'll start with a question on your global markets push. It didn't look like you were impacted in any significant way by the spike in freight rates in the quarter. And you did touch on some of this, but can you just elaborate on how the freight rate risk is currently being hedged out through contracting and how that challenge is generally being managed? And while we're at it, could you maybe put the bookends on sort of the number of cargoes that potentially get shipped in Q1 and -- call it, Q4 and Q1? And anything else within your global marketing push that you would want to flag?

Richard Kruger: Dave, why don't you take that? You and your team manage those for us.

Dave Oldreive: Yes, sure. And thanks, Menno. Rich mentioned our 9 time chartered vessels, which we fortuitously locked in before the rates went up dramatically. We're able to use those vessels for crude, particularly off the West Coast that goes to typically China or into the California markets. And we're seeing massive savings relative to current spot freight rates, and we take that back as our netback. We also have 4 MR vessels. Those are 300 kbd product vessels, mostly working off the West Coast to move diesel to markets. And same thing, we're seeing much lower freight rates, which helps us with our netbacks. Combine that with our advantaged logistics, we get really good value for our diesel sales.

If you think about export cargoes, we exported 92 cargoes year-to-date. That's about 60% more than we did in 2025 as a whole. What we do is we optimize based on our product netbacks, our alternatives domestically, and we balance between diesel and jet mostly. There's very little gasoline that we export. And we will optimize that based on price, based on market conditions and hard to say what Q4 and Q1 will bring, but we will make sure we optimize that to maximize value to Suncor in the current market.

Richard Kruger: Without saying, it's been a huge part of our performance this year.

Dave Oldreive: Absolutely.

Richard Kruger: Having that level of flexibility. And although the terms on those time charters are proprietary just for competitive purposes, they don't go forever. But we have that well into next year, we'll still have those before any of those will be looked at being renewing and things. And that gets back to that comment I made earlier. Sometimes we'd rather be lucky than good, and we took a lot of these actions, not anticipating the unique benefits we'll see now, but they have been extremely valuable for us. And I think in the quarters ahead, they're going to continue to be.

Menno Hulshof: Okay. And then I guess the second question is for Peter on the balance sheet. You talked about net debt falling a lot in the quarter. Like a lot of everybody else, we have clear line of sight to a net cash build. And given I've chatted with you about this in the past, but it seems like that is more of an output rather than something that the company wants to get to. So how are you thinking about sort of free cash allocation to the extent that oil prices and crack spreads remain elevated? I think there's probably limits to how much you want to grow. You recently increased the monthly buyback to $750 million.

How should we be thinking about that into 2027?

Peter Zebedee: Yes. Thanks a lot, Menno. And obviously, the balance sheet is in exceptional shape right now. And as we spoke about before, our philosophy on share buybacks has always been to buy back proportionate to our overall dividend. We're certainly doing that right now. And so that philosophy remains unchanged. We believe in returning excess funds to shareholders. We're always going to maintain the flexibility to respond to any material changes that may happen in the market. But this is the power of Suncor. This is the power of the integration that we bring to the table, and that's to provide reliable and predictable and ratable shareholder returns through the cycle, and you can count on us to continue that.

Richard Kruger: And Menno, maybe if I just add one other point to that. If we choose to grow faster than we outlined in our I-Day plan, the incremental capital that we're looking at is not overwhelming in any regard. So if the business environment stays strong and we would choose to invest more in the near term, the ability to return cash, the reliable and growing dividend and material buybacks, we think we're going to be able to do all of that. We don't have any particular goal or driver to build up a war chest of cash for any particular reason with a net debt at or near or below 0.

We have a lot of flexibility for whatever we choose to do. So you can interpret that as there'll be continued material cash return to shareholders, in particular, that incremental dollar via buybacks.

Operator: One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Manav Gupta with UBS.

Manav Gupta: Rich, you kind of talked about who made the family photo and who did not, but there were a couple of assets, I think, Hebron and Hibernia, which did make the family photo. And I'm trying to understand what drove the decision to keep those members in the family photo.

Richard Kruger: Hebron and Hibernia, of course, they're non-operated. And a big part of who's in the family photo and how close you snuggle up to me and my wife is what do you bring to the party? And can we add value to what you do? Hebron and Hibernia bring a lot to the party. They're longer life. They're a stable operation, a rock-solid operator who knows how to operate in the offshore quite well. And the -- fundamentally, we cash dividend checks each month from them, and they run it really well. So they add material cash flow. It's not to say the other -- the assets we're looking to sell don't, but they're not our core competency.

I don't think people buy Suncor because we operate a single FPSO off of the East Coast. So there are some distinctions there. And we've always talked about the East Coast is really a tale of two cities. There's the platforms that have run in Hibernia and the floaters, and we make -- we look at them in different ways and make different decisions based on how we see them.

Manav Gupta: My quick follow-up here is we are seeing WCS differentials widen. But given your refining capacity integration and the diesel margin, the impact of those differentials will be minimal for you compared to your peers. Can you talk about that?

Richard Kruger: Yes. You hit on it well. Our level of sensitivity or immunity to differential is uniquely low relative to a peer set. And the -- everyone is talking about what's going on. It's not so much that there's -- the pipes are overstuffed, so you can't get more out. It's some of this unique freight situation you're seeing in the Gulf Coast. There's a Venezuelan crude. There's a number of other factors here. So yes, they've certainly widened. Although the underlying WCS price, still at a historic level is quite high, we don't see this as kind of the new norm. We don't see these widening differentials as enduring.

But while they do, we are less affected by them than the rest of our peer group. Again, keep going back to that unique construct of our upstream and downstream asset base.

Operator: And one moment for our next question. That will come from the line of Patrick O'Rourke with ATB Cormark.

Patrick O'Rourke: Obviously, you've covered a lot of ground throughout the entire business, particularly the downstream. So that's been terrific. Maybe I'll keep it brief here then. When I look at year-to-date capital spend and we think about the normal cadence for Q4, it seems like it puts you down 1 or 2 paths here. One path where you're at or below the low end of your full year CapEx guide or another path where maybe you start preinvesting in 2027 and some of the strategic initiatives you've spoken to. I guess as of where we sit today, which path would you think you'd prefer to deviate down?

Richard Kruger: Yes. Fair question, Patrick. And we are tracking toward the low end of guidance on the capital. And in part, we didn't talk about it a lot in the second quarter, but these unique rain events also slowed some of our capital activity that involves moving dirt, things because of the weather conditions. So we're tracking to the low end. Given where we are, we've been asking ourselves some of the monies that we had planned on spending in '27. Does it make sense, given we have the capacity to move some of that to '26? If it makes sense, we've been looking to do that. That's probably lost in the round off, though, it's not big, big numbers.

But we're -- we have said that we're planning a future at or below $6 billion in capital. That's still where we are. We'll have guidance here in about a month for the next year. I think you can probably guesstimate what you might see on the capital side of it. So we're just looking at are there good, thoughtful, wise things to do versus macro changes. And part of that -- make no mistake, part of that coming on the low end of guidance is continued good performance. We've talked about turnarounds. I just flagged 3 of them that were best ever.

So our organization continues to do a good job of being very thoughtful, frugal and wise with capital allocation, and that's part of the reason we're tracking to the low end.

Patrick O'Rourke: Okay. Great. And then just thinking -- you touched on it a little bit, but WCS differential here. You've touched on your time charters. I mean, typically, the locational discount has been sort of between Hardisty and the Gulf, but now it's between the Gulf and maybe other waterborne crude markets. Based on the assets you have to move barrels here, what sort of ability do you have to mitigate WCS differentials by, say, pushing those heavy barrels that are not upgraded further out the value chain here in the fourth quarter and into 2027?

Richard Kruger: Dave, do you want to comment on that?

Dave Oldreive: Yes, sure. Patrick, as you know, we export off of the West Coast on our TMX volumes, and we get to capture full market value for those products. We have commitments on pipe into the Gulf for some of our volumes. But at the end of the day, really -- and we'll maximize into our refineries. But make no mistake, we're always maximizing heavies and sours into our refineries regardless of where the diff is. It's pretty much always economic for us. So really, we see ourselves continuing to do more of the same in that space. And like Richard said, we're pretty indifferent to the WCS diff overall.

What we -- if the diff is wider, we make it up in the refining business or we make it up in our upgraders. We see it as pretty indifferent to our operation through the fourth quarter.

Richard Kruger: Because of those time charters, when and how we contracted them, we don't have that same exposure to the differentials on the heavy crudes that are exported because of our freight rates. That won't last forever, but we also don't think the current world we're in will last forever either.

Operator: One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Travis Wood with NBC Capital Markets.

Travis Wood: Apologies if this was touched on, I logged in a bit late. I think in the opening remarks, and you've done this last quarter as well, just continue to talk about efforts to capture global pricing largely through the refined product market given where global cracks are. But could you walk through some of the detail and maybe some color around what that is exactly and what you're debottlenecking, whether it's kind of egress to Tidewater to be able to export to those markets? And then what type of volume would we be thinking about in the product sales for Q3?

And what do you think that contributed on the margin for the quarter as well without giving away too many of the trade and marketing secrets, obviously?

Richard Kruger: Sure. Travis, we're going to cut you some slack for joining us late as long as you go back and listen in to the earnings call song on your own time. You've got to hear that. It's one for the ages. Dave, you want to comment on that?

Dave Oldreive: Yes. So Travis, we optimize our exports off both coasts, and we have some unique efficient logistics with rail to the West Coast and then ability to trade direct to customer through our own chartered -- time chartered vessels on the West Coast as well as the same thing on the East Coast. We have niche markets that we deliver to where we see a unique value for our products, which tend to be lower cloud into Alaska on the West Coast, and Scandinavia, Iceland, places like that on the East Coast. And then there's a big short in Central America that we have an established relationship with some counterparties there that is very profitable for us.

We see our ability to grow that materially. We've grown it already, particularly the West Coast volumes. And it has historically been a rail loading and unloading constraint, and we've been busting through that, and we think we have more room to go on that through the -- into the first quarter.

Richard Kruger: And then the setup you have, Dave, again, not to get into commercial terms, but that getting products railed to the West Coast, the way your team has set that up, that's quite competitive with pipe products to the West Coast.

Travis Wood: Okay. And are you able to share what type of volume we're thinking about versus kind of domestic consumption like using the 677 of sales for this quarter, how much would reach the Tidewater of that number approximately?

Dave Oldreive: Yes, Travis, we exported about 75,000 barrels a day year-to-date.

Richard Kruger: Out of the [600-plus] still more than 10%.

Dave Oldreive: And we have an opportunity to do more if the market directs us in that direction, we have opportunity to do more, and we have an opportunity to flex between diesel and jet molecules as well, depending on where the market goes.

Travis Wood: Round numbers, we'll give a little more -- round numbers of that. A little less than half of that export has been -- if I have numbers right, has been crude and a little bit more than half products. Is that about right?

Richard Kruger: That's the product volume, sorry.

Dave Oldreive: The crude volume is in addition to that.

Richard Kruger: You're using ships for the crude, that's just the product.

Operator: One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Lydia Gould with Goldman Sachs.

Lydia Gould: Could you talk more about costs and how you're driving improvements in your operating costs across assets or any other areas of the business where you see opportunities to take out costs or drive structural efficiencies?

Richard Kruger: Sure. I'll make a general comment, and then I'm going to turn it to Adam, particularly in the mining side of it. We recognize you got -- you have to identify who you are, what you are. We're a global commodity that is cyclical in nature. We generally can't control the prices of our products. So we have to just have an endless, ruthless, unwavering commitment to cost management. For us, our refineries are extremely competitive. Our upstream is 2 components. It's a large and growing in situ and it's the large mining. The mining has a higher ongoing operating cost structure.

So Adam, why don't you share some of the things we're doing there to just contain, control, reduce cost in the upstream mining sector in particular.

Adam Albeldawi: Yes. So in the upstream, and Rich spoke about this already, when you look at the 2 main businesses, the in situ and the mining pieces, the in situ assets are already at a very competitive top quartile cost perspective. There is always work we are doing to continue to drive that down. But the big opportunity for us in the upstream is in the mining business. And when you look at the cost that we have in the mining business, there's a number of things we are doing to drive those costs down further.

I could speak about a number of examples to increase our productivity, but perhaps the example I'll speak to is the work we're doing to scale our autonomous haulage system. So you may recall that we have scaled and we have deployed AHS, autonomous haulage system, at our base plant operations. We have around 140 trucks or so ultra-class trucks fully autonomous. In addition to the increased safety performance we get from that, we are seeing a reduction in our operating costs resulting from the deployment of AHS. So the decision has been made to now deploy AHS and scale AHS at the Syncrude Mildred Lake facility.

We currently have just under 30 trucks kitted up with AHS at Mildred Lake. And by the end of this year, we will have close to 40 trucks kitted with AHS and in operation. So that is an example of the work we're doing in our mining business to continue to drive our productivity up and reduce our costs.

Richard Kruger: Yes. Thanks, Adam. So just to add to that, really 2 big levers, productivity in mining, little things make big differences with a large fleet and then technology. AHS is a technology on it. So those are the 2 big levers we're operating, and we know and internally, our mining has to be cost competitive to attract capital. And the teams understand that and are working hard to do that.

Operator: I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. David Johnson for any closing remarks.

David L. Johnson: Thank you, everyone, for joining the call this morning. If you have any follow-up questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to our team. Operator, you can end the call.

Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.

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